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Feriel

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Message  Feriel le Mar 25 Mai - 23:15

C'est étonnant que sur ce site il n'y ait pas de rubrique consacrée à la tragédie du Heysel!

Interview très intéressante de l'ancien chief executive de LFC de l'époque (en 1985) à propos de ce qui s'est passé au Heysel:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/heysel-stadium-disaster/2010/05/25/former-liverpool-fc-chief-executive-peter-robinson-says-heysel-was-an-accident-waiting-to-happen-100252-26512757/
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Message  Feriel le Mar 25 Mai - 23:28

Il a vraiment tout dit, la vérité sur ce qui s'est passé et que les sanctions étaient disproportionnées et injustes!
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Message  Ant le Mer 26 Mai - 0:11

Feriel a écrit:C'est étonnant que sur ce site il n'y ait pas de rubrique consacrée à la tragédie du Heysel!

Interview très intéressante de l'ancien chief executive de LFC de l'époque (en 1985) à propos de ce qui s'est passé au Heysel:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/heysel-stadium-disaster/2010/05/25/former-liverpool-fc-chief-executive-peter-robinson-says-heysel-was-an-accident-waiting-to-happen-100252-26512757/


tu le fait quand ?
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Message  greg le Mer 26 Mai - 1:14

Feriel a écrit:Il a vraiment tout dit, la vérité sur ce qui s'est passé et que les sanctions étaient disproportionnées et injustes!
si tu veut c'est pas le genre de sujet comme aime trop abordé ici ca c'est passé c'est fait pas la peine d'epilogué cent cinquante mille année la dessus
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Message  Feriel le Mer 26 Mai - 18:48

greg a écrit:
Feriel a écrit:Il a vraiment tout dit, la vérité sur ce qui s'est passé et que les sanctions étaient disproportionnées et injustes!
si tu veut c'est pas le genre de sujet comme aime trop abordé ici ca c'est passé c'est fait pas la peine d'epilogué cent cinquante mille année la dessus

Je sais mais il ne faut pas oublier les moments douloureux comme le Hillsborough aussi. C'est un travail de mémoire à faire! Il ne faut jamais oublié ces choses là, pour que plus jamais cela ne se répète!
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Message  Feriel le Mer 26 Mai - 19:12

Greg, c'est vrai faudrait pas trop épiloguer là dessus, ni s'en souvenir! N'est ce pas les officiels de LFC??




LFC unveil Heysel plaque







Liverpool
Football Club today unveiled a permanent tribute at Anfield to the 39
football fans who lost their lives in the Heysel Stadium disaster.Senior club officials and dignitaries were joined by representatives
of Juventus at a ceremony as a commemorative plaque was unveiled on the
Centenary Stand ahead of Saturday's 25th anniversary.
LFC Managing Director Christian Purslow, Chief Financial Officer
Philip Nash, Club Ambassador Kenny Dalglish and assistant manager Sammy
Lee joined Juventus' Director of Youth Development Gianluca Pessotto at
the presentation as former players Phil Neal and Sergio Brio unveiled
the plaque.
Also in attendance were Italian Consul Mrs Nunzia Bertali, Liverpool
Lord Mayor Cllr Hazel Williams, Young Lord Mayor Lauren Cragg, Liverpool
Schools Parliament coordinator Jeff Dunn, Leader of Liverpool City
Council Joe Anderson and Walton District MP Steve Rotheram.
Club Chaplain Bill Bygroves delivered an emotional address ahead of
the unveiling.
He said: "We can't change our history or dry up all our tears. We
cannot solve the mysteries still unanswered down these years.
"But we can, for all our children's sake and for the 39, build a
monument of friendship that will stand the test of time.
"It is estimated the average person can live 40 days without food,
five days without water, eight minutes without air, but only one second
without hope.
"The anthem of this club is 'walk on with hope in your heart'. We
would ask you to express to those who continue to walk many miles with
sorrow that they should walk on with hope in their heart.
"And from this club, to your club, to our friends in Italy, please
say 'You do not stand alone, you do not grieve alone and you do not walk
alone.'"












http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/lfc-unveil-heysel-plaque


Il n'est jamais trop tard mais que ce fut long !!! Même dans le musée de LFC, c'est assez discret et pas très mis en valeur. Il était temps que Liverpool FC fasse quelque chose en mémoire de la tragédie du Heysel, une plaque commémorative c'est mieux que rien!
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Message  Feriel le Mer 26 Mai - 19:14

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/heysel-stadium-disaster/2010/05/22/liverpool-marks-25th-anniversary-of-the-heysel-tragedy-100252-26497299/
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Message  Ant le Mer 26 Mai - 19:42

Ant a écrit:
Feriel a écrit:C'est étonnant que sur ce site il n'y ait pas de rubrique consacrée à la tragédie du Heysel!

Interview très intéressante de l'ancien chief executive de LFC de l'époque (en 1985) à propos de ce qui s'est passé au Heysel:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/heysel-stadium-disaster/2010/05/25/former-liverpool-fc-chief-executive-peter-robinson-says-heysel-was-an-accident-waiting-to-happen-100252-26512757/


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Message  Feriel le Mer 26 Mai - 19:45

Ant a écrit:
Ant a écrit:
Feriel a écrit:C'est étonnant que sur ce site il n'y ait pas de rubrique consacrée à la tragédie du Heysel!

Interview très intéressante de l'ancien chief executive de LFC de l'époque (en 1985) à propos de ce qui s'est passé au Heysel:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/heysel-stadium-disaster/2010/05/25/former-liverpool-fc-chief-executive-peter-robinson-says-heysel-was-an-accident-waiting-to-happen-100252-26512757/


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Faire quoi?
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Message  Ant le Mer 26 Mai - 19:49

Créee le rubrique consacrée à la tragédie du Heysel


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Feriel

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Message  Feriel le Mer 26 Mai - 19:58

Je parlais du forum en fait, je suis désolé. Je ne suis pas admin, je ne peux pas créer cette rubrique. Quand je dis "rubrique", c'est "section", comme pour Hillsborough sur votre forum.
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Message  Howa le Sam 29 Mai - 13:03

25 years ago..
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Message  Jepigepo le Sam 29 Mai - 14:30

Et oui , 25 ans...

Une pensée pour toutes ces victimes , quelque soient leur nationalité
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Message  thommo29 le Sam 29 Mai - 15:15

RIP
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Message  Pascale from Paris le Sam 29 Mai - 15:39

Il y a 25 ans j'ai vécu le drame, en direct à la télévision, avec au téléphone un ami flamand ......Je m'en souviens hélas trop bien ....et de tous les commentaires qui s'en sont suivis ...

RIP
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Message  Feriel le Sam 29 Mai - 16:39

R.I.P. the 39! cry PEACE !! YNWA

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Message  regisl.f.c. le Sam 29 Mai - 17:25

R.I.P. aux 39 victimes
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Message  pitou le Sam 29 Mai - 18:18

RIP , personne ne devrait mourrir pour sport

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Message  groplutseb le Sam 29 Mai - 19:05

RIP
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Message  Antoine le Sam 29 Mai - 23:30

R.I.P

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Message  morientes198 le Sam 29 Mai - 23:39

RIP the 39
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Message  Brittanyred le Dim 30 Mai - 1:56

J'avais 12 ans, et c'était la première fois que je voyais des morts en direct à la télévision. Je n'ai jamais oublié leur visage bleu asphyxié. Jamais.
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Message  Feriel le Dim 30 Mai - 3:59


Football scholar Dr Rogan Taylor assesses the impact of Heysel 25 years on - and explains how the disaster helped lead to the creation of the Premier League.



How important is it that we remember Heysel?

It's tremendously important. Liverpool fans should never forget Heysel - 39 dead people. The Hillsborough disaster four years later has sometimes overshadowed the fact that on a foreign field something just as terrible for those 39 families happened.

What were the implications of Heysel?

The lessons that were learned from Heysel were not lessons about our own stadia and policing, because it was in Belgium. It took Hillsborough to learn those lessons. Heysel was the egg that hatched into the Premier League - a lot of people don't realise that. After Heysel there was no European football. Liverpool had 20 consecutive years in Europe from 1965. So where was the revenue going to come from? The big five at the time - Everton, Manchester United, Tottenham, Arsenal and Liverpool - got together and started talking about what they were going to do. That's how the breakaway came about. Heysel plus Hillsborough over Sky TV equals the Premier League and modern football.

That's quite a legacy...

Yes, it is. The tragedy at Heysel started the second big football revolution - the first was the beginning of professional football, which happened 100 years before Heysel and Hillsborough in 1887.

You played a massive role in picking up the pieces after Heysel by setting up the Football Supporters' Association. Tell us about that...

I was doing a PHD at the time and I was tremendously affected by Heysel and the impact it had on this city. Liverpool was devastated. It came at a very bad time for the city. Those who remember the 1980s and Mrs Thatcher's government will remember we had no more flesh on the bone. Football was the one field of excellence in which this city still flew a flag, and we'd just been punched right in the midriff.

I took in all the coverage afterwards - the newspapers and magazines and the television. As I read and watched, I felt more and more as if I should write something myself because nobody had addressed what Heysel actually meant. People were very keen on where fault lied, why young men wanted to fight each other and why we were in that stadium. But nobody had stood back and addressed the meaning. My feeling was that the disaster signalled a complete collapse in the relationship between football fans and the game. So I decided to write a piece and send it to a newspaper.

I went round to my friend Pete Garrett's house with a few other Liverpool fans. One of those, Maggie Reid, suggested we set up an organisation - a kind of supporters' union - and attach its name to the piece I sent to the newspaper. We called ourselves the Football Supporters' Association.

And what was the response?

We sent the letter on Monday, it was in the paper on Thursday and by Thursday lunchtime BBC Newsnight had rung. They said the whole of the following day's show would be dedicated to the question 'Where does English football go from here?' following Heysel and the ban on English clubs from Europe. They had no fans and asked us to come. They had no one to call - there was a huge space waiting to be occupied by average fans.

And it went on to become a major organisation...

We got three or four thousand letters back in the first two or three weeks. Over the last 25 years it's achieved a tremendous amount. There had been no national fans' organisation that individual fans could join. We filled a gap and the media was keen to engage with us. We were drawn into a highly significant and political situation.

What impact did Heysel have on hooliganism in this country?

It's hard to tell. The Football Supporters' Association was never formed as an anti-hooliganism organisation. Our argument was that hooliganism was an aspect of a failed relationship. We wanted to start sorting this relationship and we knew the hooliganism would begin to sort itself - though there are always a few idiots around.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/25-years-on-impact-of-heysel

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